Eastbourne Airshow - NOTAM
Q) EGTT/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/055/5046N00018E004
RESTRICTED AREA TEMPORARY FOR EASTBOURNE AIRSHOW. AIC 59/2008
(MAUVE 273) REFERS.
RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS MADE UNDER ARTICLE 96 OF ANO 2005
(MIL ACFT SHOULD COMPLY WITH JSP552 201.135.9). NO ACFT IS TO FLY WI
AREA BOUNDED BY STRAIGHT LINES JOINING 504211N 0001738E-504706N
0002333E-504955N 0001724E-504512N 0001133E-504211N 0001738E EXCEPT
AUTHORISED BY SUSSEX POLICE OR AIRSHOW FLYING DISPLAY DIRECTOR OR HM
COASTGUARD.
SEE SEPARATE NOTAMS FOR RED ARROWS DISPLAYS AND
ASSOCIATED RA(T) ON 15 16 AND 17 AUG. AUS 08-08-0026/AS7
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 5500FT AMSL
J3680/08
FROM: 14 AUG 2008 09:00TO: 17 AUG 2008 20:00
SCHEDULE: 14-16 0900-1730 AND 17 0900-2000
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Q) EGTT/QWPLW/IV/M/W/000/050/5045N00017E002
FREEFALL TEAM PJE WI 2NM RAD 5045N 00017E (EASTBOURNE). DROP
TIMES 14 1250, 15 1300, 16 1510, 17 1500. CONTACT 01227 818026.
AUS 08-08-0371/AS3
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 5000FT AMSL
H3134/08
FROM: 14 AUG 2008 12:35TO: 17 AUG 2008 15:15
SCHEDULE: 14 1235-1305, 15 1245-1315, 16 1455-1525, 17 1445-1515
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Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5050N00018W005
AD RESTRICTION DUE TO EASTBOURNE AIR SHOW PARTICIPANTS.
ALL NON-PARTICIPATING ACFT PPR WITH EGKA ATC TEL.01273467378 BETWEEN:
AUG 14 0930-1030 AND 1230-1600
AUG 15 1030-1115 AND 1145-1615
AUG 16 1100-1600
AUG 17 1130-1600
NON-PARTICIPATING INBOUND ACFT TO EGKA MUST BE PREPARED TO ACCEPT UP
TO 30 MINUTES HOLD AND HAVE SUFFICIENT FUEL TO REACH DESIGNATED
ALTERNATE. DEP ACFT MAY BE SUBJECT DELAY WHERE INBOUND DISPLAY
ACFT HAVE ENDURANCE LIMITATIONS.
C2695/08
FROM: 14 AUG 2008 09:30TO: 17 AUG 2008 16:00
'Unofficial Information' (no, this is not a joke!) follows:
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA: Activated
RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY) AT EASTBOURNE, E SUSSEX FOR A RED ARROWS DISPLAY WI 6NM RADIUS 504532N 0001729E. AREA ESTABLISHED UNDER ARTICLE 96 OF THE ANO 2005 (MIL ACFT SHOULD COMPLY WITH JSP552.201.135.9). AIC 62/2008 (MAUVE 276) DATED 17 JULY 08 REFERS. AUS 08-08-0025/AS1
J3680/08 IV SFC - FL055 Thu 14/08/2008 09:00:00 - Sun 17/08/2008 20:00:00 BO BO W RTCA
Eastbourne Airshow - NOTAM
Saw red arrows go straight over the top of Caburn at around 1PM at about 200ft (two hundred feet) ATO yesterday!!! 8-0
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caveat aviator
looks like the ais website is getting worse (i know, you'd think that would be impossible). no sign of a nice pdf with a map this time. well there is, but only for part of the story.
the only way to get the 6 nm radius exclusion zone data is direct from ais using your official logon.
sorry dave i wasn't able to post more data earlier. the shgc site was being very obstinate as well as me being on the wrong computer, so i had very limited data to hand.
looks like we have to look up TRAs as well as NAVWs and this still may not include red arrows etc data. and still no map provided.
confused
504211N 0001738E-504706N 0002333E-504955N 0001724E-504512N 0001133E-504211N 0001738E
As per normal I'm getting confused looking at the NOTAMS...
By how far North of Eastbourne do we have to fly to miss the NOTAM area?
can anyone help me with an online map that will take these coordinates directly?
cheers
confused
NOTAM page now displays the rectangle enclosed by the co-ordinates.
Notam
I had a look at website after googling Eastbourne Notams called Fly DSC that showed the red arrows area to be a larger circle than you've drawn. Basically centred just south of Eastbourn pier at 6 NM. That touches Seaford, Berwick, Hailsham, then around to Normans bay and out to sea. Maybe you didnt use nautical miles? Maybe flydsc is wrong? (Liked your square though).
simon
Notam
Oops! My circles were based upon minutes of arc at 51 North, not the equator. Now fixed. Looks like we will have to avoid gong much south of Hailsham in our epic flights to Kent tomorrow...
While looking at the problem , I spotted this for Sunday:
RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY) FOR DUNSFOLD AIRSHOW. AIC 57 /2008 (MAUVE 271) REFERS. RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS MADE UNDER ARTICLE 96 OF THE ANO 2005 (MIL ACFT SHOULD COMPLY WITH JSP552 201.135.9). NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 2500FT AMSL WI AREA BOUNDED BY COORDINATES 510949N 0003025W THENCE ANTICLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE RAD 12 NM CENTRED AT 510853W 0001125W TO 510440N 0002914W THENCE CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE RAD 3NM CENTRED ON 510702N 0003209W, TO 510949N 0003025W. NO ACFT IS TO FLY BELOW 1500FT AMSL WI AREA BOUNDED BY CO-ORDINATES 510949N 0003025W THENCE CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE RAD OF 3NM CENTRED ON 510702N 0003209W TO 510440N 0002914W THENCE CLOCKWISE BY THE ARC OF A CIRCLE RAD 12NM CENTRED AT 510853W 0001125W TO 510949N 0003025W. THESE REGULATIONS DO NOT APPLY TO ACFT FLYING WITH PERMISSION OF THE DUNSFOLD FLYING DISPLAY DIRECTOR OR IN THE SERVICE OF THE SURREY POLICE. SEE SEPARATE NOTAM FOR RED ARROWS DISPLAY AND ASSOCIATED RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY). AUS 08-08-0011/AS1
Are these guys serious? How the hell do you plot that? Not at all sure what my program is going to do to that, when it appears.
are these guys serious?
"Are these guys serious? How the hell do you plot that?"
based on past experience, yes they think they are...
personally, i'm getting well beyond my own bullshit limit. that last really does go beyond reason. presumably, standing in court charged with an airspace infringement the average pilot would ask the judge to explain precisely which bit of the countryside he may not fly (have flown) over between which times as registered on his standard uk watch on which dates as displayed on his uk diary - and then ask how he could reasonably be expected to be (have been) aware of this information in advance of the alleged event.
is any of this stuff included in the bhpa pilot syllabus? anyone know a good coach? i reckon i need one.