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Hang gliding general :: RE: Pictures from France

20 August, 2014 - 21:16
Author: waltspoint
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:16 pm (GMT -8)

Beautiful pictures, and a beautiful flying site! Do you typically keep your VG tight when flying? /jd

Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link?

20 August, 2014 - 19:48
Author: davisstraub
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:48 am (GMT -8)

Many of us are now using 200 lb test line from Cortland. Previously used at Wallaby Ranch for tandem towing.We previously used 140 lb test Greenspot from Cortland.

http://www.fishusa.com/product/Cortland-Dacron-Planer-Board-Line?utm_source=bing_ps&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=bing_ps

http://www.cortlandline.com/sport-fishing/all-water/braided-line/dacron-trolling-line-igfa
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Flying Sites-Where to go?

20 August, 2014 - 19:23
Author: lionlife
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:23 am (GMT -8)

I would love to compete at the Team Challenge (I have been probably 15 times over the years and basically grew up on the ramp), however, work constraints don't allow for it. I'm saving vacation for next year's Team Challenge. All I've got is the full week after Labor Day. I could do as Sky_Walker suggests, but seeing as I've flown there many times, I guess I was interested in a new location. I've flown Henson's, Lookout, Quest, Wallaby, and OBX and I've been to Morningside and Ellenville but didn't get to fly there.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Flying Sites-Where to go?

20 August, 2014 - 19:05
Author: Ispyacloud
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:05 am (GMT -8)

Go to team challenge at Hensons. As a low hour H3 you will get a lot out of that and it will cost you less than $900 (why leave here when we have some of the best flying of the year?). BTW Yosemite is a H4 site.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Flying Sites-Where to go?

20 August, 2014 - 18:49
Author: Sky_Walker
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:49 am (GMT -8)

Just come fly at Lookout and use all the money for beer ...


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Hang gliding general :: Flying Sites-Where to go?

20 August, 2014 - 16:56
Author: lionlife
Subject: Flying Sites-Where to go?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:56 am (GMT -8)

Hi all. Mostly a lurker here, but I'm reaching out for help.
At the first of September, I have 5 days of freedom and my wife says go fly. Free to go anywhere and fly as long as I don't spend over $900 bucks for everything (travel, food, lodging, rentals, etc).
-Hang 3 with 25 hours, but been in it my whole life as my parents flew.
-Live in Tennessee, and have foot launch and aerotow signoffs.
I'd like to maximize airtime, so some of the dream sites like Yosemite look like they're out.

Here are my thoughts:
I can drive and bring all my gear, but lose 2-3 days of flying due to travel.
I can use air travel and rent a glider (if you know a school/person that has rentals) and have more days flying, but a slim margin of error on the financial side. I would bring harness/helmet/vario.
I can drive to Florida and spend most of my money on towing, and it's only a 9 hour drive (I've flown at Quest and Wallaby before, however it wasn't soarble and I don't mind going back one bit).

From my research, the Salt Lake City area may have the most consistent flying that is doable in terms of plane ticket costs if I use air travel, but can I rent cheaply and fly all day?

Again, to maximize airtime, where is the best place to go this time of year that has the most consistent conditions?

All thoughts/ideas are acceptable. Thanks in advance.

Hang gliding Videos :: 7-6-14 Tekoa to Calder ID- 55 mile xc flight

20 August, 2014 - 16:02
Author: Wonder Boy
Subject: 7-6-14 Tekoa to Calder ID- 55 mile xc flight
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:02 am (GMT -8)

Poor route planning, got stuck in a corner with no where to go.
Damn tall grass I landed in
Fun time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D91v5df7Vbk&hd=1
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Hang gliding Videos :: 7-5-14 Tekoa to Athol ID - 60 mile xc flight

20 August, 2014 - 15:59
Author: Wonder Boy
Subject: 7-5-14 Tekoa to Athol ID - 60 mile xc flight
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:59 am (GMT -8)

A local day turns into a nice XC flight (A little encouragement to "go far, I'll get you")
Nice low save kept the flight alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJHvZ-6OTbQ&hd=1
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link?

20 August, 2014 - 15:56
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:56 am (GMT -8)

moyesboy wrote: Many people tow with very strong weak links. this might let you save a tow that gets further out of line vertically or horizontally, however I personally believe it best to use a weaker link and have it break sometimes when I'd rather it didn't.
I understand flying in such a way as to anticipate unexpectedly losing thrust, but what's the advantage of having it more likely to happen when you don't want it to?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking for K4 155 Right Hand Leading Edge

20 August, 2014 - 15:54
Author: mbadley
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:54 am (GMT -8)

You can check - I have the frame of a K2 glider (same size) sitting on the side of my house. I don't know if they are interchangeable.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Helmet support line, weak link

20 August, 2014 - 15:37
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:37 am (GMT -8)

Red,
Set it up with the magnets and try it in turbulence. You will soon see what I'm talking about. The worst aspect of magnets it the weight which turns a soft support line into a deadly bolo that will lash itself onto anything an instantly tie into a hitch. The re4sult can easily be disastrous. I've been down many roads as a life-long inventor and have a fairly reasonable grasp upon what sorts of things can harm their operator. This approach is high in the category of 'things that seem great until you've experimented in earnest and soon learn it may be your worst nightmare'.

Nice try though.
JD

Hang gliding Videos :: Tragic Wingsuit Flight

20 August, 2014 - 15:21
Author: mbadley
Subject: Tragic Wingsuit Flight
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:21 am (GMT -8)

You hate to see it, but sometimes these guys just tempt fate a little too much...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPl8V_21E-8
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Pictures from France

20 August, 2014 - 15:16
Author: mark selner
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:16 am (GMT -8)


Hang gliding general :: RE: Helmet support line, weak link

20 August, 2014 - 14:56
Author: red
Subject: Helmet support line, weak link
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:56 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: Red,
Neodymium magnets strike me as bad news for use as weak links for applications such as helmet support. I won't get into all the reasons but there are over a dozen. Neodymium magnets are fantastic for holding camera mounts through sail fabric but that's another story. A truly excellent weak link for a helmet support is Velcro strips used in shear. It's very easy to adjust the release force by cutting the mating strips in width or in length. The overlap can be adjusted and the link failure force can be easily tested without destroying the weak link.
Cheers, JD
JD,

The layers of tape between the magnets will reduce the holding force to any value needed. The size of the magnets is also important, and certainly should be less than a camera would need. These magnets can be bought in almost any size. Amazon has bunches.

The holding power of Velcro can change by the design (who makes it), age of the material, sunlight exposure, and frequency of separation. Still, any weak link should be better than none.


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Bug reports and requests :: RE: Mail in my outbox...

20 August, 2014 - 14:18
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:18 am (GMT -8)





Tom Galvin you've got mail!
Tontar you've got (very old!) mail!
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Hang gliding general :: RE: icaro rx2 technora

20 August, 2014 - 02:59
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:59 pm (GMT -8)

I thought I saw air damns, three on each wing at the trailing edge. Could this be the next big improvement in SS performance?


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Helmet support line, weak link

20 August, 2014 - 01:33
Author: andylongvq
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:33 pm (GMT -8)

I've got 4 weak links on my adjustable head support. 2 are where my little clip... that's at the end of the support line that runs up through my carabiner and down to a jam cleat on my hip... attaches to the line that goes from ear to ear. One of these two weak links is longer so if/when I'm not paying attention, load the weak link and break it, the other one takes over so I don't have to replace the weak link in the air.

The other 2 are where the loop of line that goes from ear to ear attaches to the ear. That's so that if, for some bizarre reason, something catches on the loop of line that goes behind my head from ear to ear, the weak link(s) will break.

I have all these weak links for the very same reason that Red points out; if something catches on it, I want my head support line to leave my helmet.

In the following video, you can see the weak links on the side of my helmet and at the end of the support line. They are the small white lines (kite string). Also, notice how I'm able to adjust the length of my head support line with my left hand by uncleating the jam cleat, using my head to take out the slack, then re-cleating it.

In this case, I'm loosening it so I can straighten my neck and rest my head on the basetube while on glide. Just taking a break from the head support.

https://vimeo.com/27559189#t=5m20s

- Andy

Hang gliding general :: RE: Introduction, thinking about flying again, Scott Bulger

20 August, 2014 - 00:58
Author: HGzeph
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:58 pm (GMT -8)

Very cool, glad you're coming back. Your Brother inspired alot of the younger crowd back in the day.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Introduction, thinking about flying again, Scott Bulger

20 August, 2014 - 00:48
Author: scottebulger
Subject: Got a nice call from Kenny today!
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:48 pm (GMT -8)

So I'm going to look hard at a Northwing 190. I remember Cameron from the old days, great to see a glider manufactured in the PNW. Also thanks for the email Dudley, great to hear from old friends. I left a message with Larry and Tina, looking forward to hearing from them.

Great advice from all of you, thanks! Scott

Hang gliding general :: RE: Keeping track of air time

20 August, 2014 - 00:31
Author: jjcote
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:31 pm (GMT -8)

Before I pick up the glider, I hit the start button on my wristwatch. When I land, I hit the stop button. Been doing that since I got to the top of the training hill. That's close enough. I also usually fly with a little GPS tracker, and these days I pull the time off of the tracklog if the battery doesn't run out.
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