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Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 22:23
Author: once&future
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:23 pm (GMT -8)

blindrodie wrote: Quote: We pay unnecessary extra money for the magazine whether it is "covered" or not.

Potaytoe- potahtoe, the mag is part of your membership and not a added benefit...



Fine, I agree it's all semantics. USHPA could just as easily lower the annual fee and make the magazine an add on for those that want it. The cost we pay is real either way.

And if there is some legal requirement we have a magazine then just send us a 1 page Xeroxed newsletter at whatever the minimum frequency is to satisfy the law. That's gotta be a damn sight cheaper than the glossy World of Paragliding Wonders we get every month. Folks that want that can pay for it. I don't and it sounds like a lot of HG folks feel the same.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: 9-27-16 Tekoa- Smoke plumes and a low save - T2C

11 January, 2017 - 21:07
Author: ChattaroyMan
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:07 pm (GMT -8)

Nice save at the airport! I gotta try that
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: 9-27-16 Tekoa- Smoke plumes and a low save - T2C

11 January, 2017 - 20:17
Author: Wonder Boy
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:17 pm (GMT -8)

wonderwind_flyer wrote: ...

Tekoa is one of my favorite sites in the country. I haven't flown there since the mid-1980s so it comforting to see that it looks pretty much the same now as it did then.

Thx much for sharing the video(!) ... it is a helpful reminder to make plans to visit there this summer.

...

Its a great site for sure. Glad you enjoyed.
We dont get too many visitors.

We did have Joe and his wife from Virginia visit a few years back, they had a good time


Link

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Hang gliding general :: RE: Parachute repackig

11 January, 2017 - 20:15
Author: adyr
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:15 pm (GMT -8)

I was trained as a parachutist in the army, I kind of know what I'm doing.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: 9-27-16 Tekoa- Smoke plumes and a low save - T2C

11 January, 2017 - 20:14
Author: Wonder Boy
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:14 pm (GMT -8)

I have a little motorcycle I drop off if my GF isnt there.
If I land at the bottom its only a 35 min hike back up.
The airport is so much better to breakdown at
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Kali Shiva HG Helmet

11 January, 2017 - 19:49
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:49 am (GMT -8)

I have to admit I would rather have a Kali then my CI-NL...

Finally got me convinced!


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Parachute repackig

11 January, 2017 - 19:47
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:47 am (GMT -8)

Quote: I pack them myself, it's very easy.

Agreed...and very easy to screw up, slowing the opening sequence and killing you instead of just breaking your fall.


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 19:45
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:45 am (GMT -8)

Quote: We pay unnecessary extra money for the magazine whether it is "covered" or not.

Potaytoe- potahtoe, the mag is part of your membership and not a added benefit...


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Kali Shiva HG Helmet

11 January, 2017 - 19:36
Author: remmoore
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:36 am (GMT -8)

dbotos wrote: remmoore wrote: I have a local dealer in my hometown, so it's especially easy for me. If you're having trouble locating a local dealer through the website, I would suggest calling Kali directly.

Got in touch with Lance from Marketing. They had some issues with their website, so he's helping me out.

I've visited their primary facility twice, and been impressed with how down-to-earth the whole operation is - from owner/designer Brad, all the way down. Good folks.

Way Off Topic :: Selling Impuls 17 begginer HG for 750Eur

11 January, 2017 - 19:36
Author: tuktukas
Subject: Selling Impuls 17 begginer HG for 750Eur
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:36 am (GMT -8)

Selling my HG on which I have started to fly, was using it for two seasons so in total maybe 10 - 15h of flights
selling quite cheap just for 750Eur

realy nice and in good condition

Hang gliding general :: RE: Parachute repackig

11 January, 2017 - 18:14
Author: adyr
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:14 am (GMT -8)

Once or twice / year. I have two of them to pack, the hang gliding one and the paragliding one.

I pack them myself, it's very easy.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Kali Shiva HG Helmet

11 January, 2017 - 17:41
Author: dbotos
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:41 am (GMT -8)

remmoore wrote: I have a local dealer in my hometown, so it's especially easy for me. If you're having trouble locating a local dealer through the website, I would suggest calling Kali directly.

Got in touch with Lance from Marketing. They had some issues with their website, so he's helping me out.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 17:27
Author: dbotos
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:27 am (GMT -8)

DAVE 858 wrote: Heres an idea, how about instead of complaining about a magazine that nobody reads, we should start a video blog. Kinda like what Wolfi & Jonas did with Rhythm of Flight on Youtube, but instead of just two pilots, folks from around the country could submit content promoting their sites. Could be a quarterly thing or maybe even more frequent depending on how much material is submitted. Just a thought.

I like that idea. Perhaps similar to the French Deltamag:

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?p=395158#395158

I'd definitely be interested in pieces about US sites (history, launching/flying/landing footage, local pilots discussing practical details of the site), gear tests/reviews (even if it's old stuff that's been out for a while), skills and techniques (including ancillary stuff like vario and radio usage), and profiles of instructors/schools (could give potential pilots some interest to try a lesson).

Hang gliding general :: RE: 3 point "pro tow" release

11 January, 2017 - 17:25
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:25 am (GMT -8)

MikeLake 2011/03/10 wrote: ...Towing from the top line only is an unbelievably dangerous situation, transferring to this mode due to some bottom line failure or hook up is likely to be even more dangerous.

When off the tow my 30 year old 2 point setup allowed for the belly cord to be disconnected so the rest of the contraption would wind up against the keel. I had a system in place where if this accidentally happened during the tow the line would automatically release.
(Note: This is not because I'm a brilliant designer or innovator or anything else. I watched someone tuck, didn't like what I saw, didn't want that happening to me, so I implemented a solution, simple.)
During my 23 year absence this 2 point setup (remnants of which are still in use today) morphed into something else and this safety feature was forgotten, abandoned or not understood.
I know of one fatality that I am sure would not have happened had that safety feature been in place. (*more on this).

I was fairly well stunned with the recent exchange at OZ speculating as to the likely outcome of this bottom line failure/hook-up.
No need to speculate all been done, tested and people killed or injured.
You would think with global commutations and a 30+ year history these lessons would by now all be common knowledge.
I really did attempt to get some sort of information exchange going to share this type of basic stuff.

*A knot came undone on the belly cord so all the load was suddenly transferred to the keel. THE KEEL FAILED and the pilot was killed.
A maintained, certified, 6g, 5th generation glider!
Readers! Where is the top attachment point on your set-up anything OUTSIDE of the sleeved area?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Kali Shiva HG Helmet

11 January, 2017 - 17:18
Author: krryerson
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:18 am (GMT -8)

After reading “Fly with Dustin” article on September 2, 2014, about his new Kali Avatar II Carbon helmet, decided to retire my Icaro 2000 HG helmet and replace it with this new BMX/Downhill helmet, Kali Avatar II.
When I got the Kali helmet, M-size, 57-58cm in 2014, compared it with my Icaro 2000, L-size, 60 cm.

Measured them on a postal weight, getting 751 grams on the Icaro, including shield attached and got 694 grams on the Kali, without the breakaway visor attached.
Measuring the thickness on my 25 years old Icaro helmet, found it to be ~3/4-inch-thick, with Avatar having ~+1-inch foam thickness.
But, what really sold me, was the special incorporated layers of multi-density cone shapes foam on the Kali and testimonies from BMX/Downhill riders, bragging about the new reduced impact helmet technology.
Good visibility was also a bonus.

Having said that, have now been flying for over 2 years with the Kali helmet and still love it.

Back in November, 2015, learned from remmoore how to build the carbon nose on my helmet and how to build a face shield and got that done too.
Although, bought a Lexon Polycarbonate sheet (plexiglass) from Home Depot, the upgrade version, which was break/shatter resistance.
This plexiglass was very difficult for me to bend, using a heat gun. Nevertheless, by experimenting with plexiglass, found out that the Polycarbonate sheet was very easy to work with and bend, after warming it up first, in the own, to 270F. Did not get any bubbles or heat damage on the shield and used plastic smell for timing.

Of cause, you’ll need to use leather gloves too.
Yet, it took 3 heating sequences, before I had the shield fit to my helmet, using aluminum foil on the helmet, to avoid warm marks on the helmet.

In latest article “You Kali Protectives HG Helmet” by remmoore, writing about the new Kali Shiva HG helmet and using a Bilt Explorer Discovery Adventure Helmet Shield.
That said, bought the Bilt face shield last week, got it, drilled two new holes for pivot points, just like recommended and installed it.
Conclusion, the Bilt face shield fits almost perfect on my M-size Kali Avatar II helmet.
See pictures.

Having 100% goggles accessories was superb, having a homemade plexiglass shield added instead, was terrific, but with the now new Bilt face shield on my Kali, it should be fabulous.
Though, whenever needed a new helmet, looks like the Kali Shiva HG helmet will be my next and wish the Shiva HG helmet was around in 2015.
Would have saved me a lot of work during this seasonal affective disorder time.

Knut (Virginia)

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Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 17:12
Author: once&future
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:12 am (GMT -8)

blindrodie wrote: Quote: Why should I be obliged to pay for and receive a publication that I don't want?

Your membership fee covers it AND the magazine is a requirement of the CA Corporate law that the USHPA is under.



I'm sure USHPA could adjust the fee and then include a festive holiday fruit basket as well. That would be just about as useful to me. We pay unnecessary extra money for the magazine whether it is "covered" or not.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 16:56
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:56 am (GMT -8)

Quote: Why should I be obliged to pay for and receive a publication that I don't want?

Your membership fee covers it AND the magazine is a requirement of the CA Corporate law that the USHPA is under.


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 02:42
Author: HGzeph
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:42 pm (GMT -8)

I wonder if one of the reasons there are more PG articles is that perhaps the PG community is younger? Seems like side by side the HG guys are an older group, been around longer. Maybe the young blood has more energy to crank out articles?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hang Gliding Magazine Volume 47 Issue 1

11 January, 2017 - 02:19
Author: gluesniffer
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:19 pm (GMT -8)

Comet wrote: gluesniffer wrote: "As a minority, they feel afraid to speak up and speak out"

And yet we have another thread about how bad the mag is....

They speak up ON A HANG GLIDING forum - one of the last remaining places dedicated to hang pilots where they don't feel marginalized and are free to speak out without condemnation.
You acknowledge "another thread" thus revealing there are many such threads and numerous frustrated pilots, yet you belittle those pilots for expressing themselves - exactly proving my point. Imagine the vilification they would face in a full USHPA venue!
That you cannot distinguish the not-so subtle difference between posting on this forum and being represented in the magazine makes me surprised you even know which end of your glider to hook into. .

How did I belittle pilots? I didn't say anything about anyone. I was making a comment on your statement, that people are afraid to speak out. There have been many threads on this. People have spoken out. They don't seem that afraid.

What other forum would you take this issue to than a hang forum? Every one from ushpa knows what is said on this forum. Where else is there to go?

Want more content? Submit content.

Where is the article that you or anyone else wrote that got rejected? I'll read it right here on the webs.

The mag is a reflection of reality. More bags, more content.

Are you growing the sport in any way? If you are I would like to listen to what you have to say.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Parachute repackig

11 January, 2017 - 01:58
Author: kjj3dan
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:58 pm (GMT -8)

Anybody ever try the Cloud 9 parachute and repack service out of Draper,Ut. advertising on ebay ?