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Hang gliding general :: RE: Wishful Thinking

9 February, 2017 - 01:35
Author: Nicos
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:35 pm (GMT -8)

100 degrees this weekend in Canberra, Australia. Makes for really strong seabreezes!

Hottest temps on record here but I imagine that's a 'liberal conspiracy', or more likely just fake news. Probably an elaborate hoax.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

9 February, 2017 - 00:27
Author: thermalfinder
Subject: Re: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:27 pm (GMT -8)

waveview wrote: Have a look at this 1970's UP wing flying with the cable braced leading edge supports. Sweet!
Anyone need some aluminum and tent fabric?
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 23:51
Author: Avnav8r
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:51 pm (GMT -8)

Ken.de.Russy wrote: Avnav8r wrote: Ken,

My wife and I lived in the Santa Barbara area for a few years in the early 2000's and we went to Elings Park a number of times. Great place! By the way, I see Gordon Cayce here at Lookout several times a year and he speaks highly of you!

John

Please send my best to Gordon. Is he still teaching for Matt? I saw him in 2011 at Kitty Hawk at the "Legends of Hang Gliding" seminar. What a gathering!

Gordon lives in South Carolina but shows up several times a year to help at Lookout. I will pass on your message.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 22:23
Author: Eteamjack
Subject: UP
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:23 pm (GMT -8)

UP made a good product in those days. My favorite wing remains a UP Gemini. Havent seen any on the used market for several years. I had the big one and put around 600hrs on it.
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The camp fire :: RE: WHAT ANIMAL MADE THESE MARKS?!? — its a mystery!

8 February, 2017 - 22:10
Author: Nicos
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:10 pm (GMT -8)

Thanks folks, its bizarre, even ecological sciency types have no definitive answer.

In this country it sometimes feels a lot like every animal can and actually wants to kill you!!!

Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 20:12
Author: Ken.de.Russy
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:12 pm (GMT -8)

Avnav8r wrote: Ken,

My wife and I lived in the Santa Barbara area for a few years in the early 2000's and we went to Elings Park a number of times. Great place! By the way, I see Gordon Cayce here at Lookout several times a year and he speaks highly of you!

John

Please send my best to Gordon. Is he still teaching for Matt? I saw him in 2011 at Kitty Hawk at the "Legends of Hang Gliding" seminar. What a gathering!
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 16:52
Author: Avnav8r
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:52 am (GMT -8)

Ken,

My wife and I lived in the Santa Barbara area for a few years in the early 2000's and we went to Elings Park a number of times. Great place! By the way, I see Gordon Cayce here at Lookout several times a year and he speaks highly of you!

John
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Let's See Your Launches!

8 February, 2017 - 15:25
Author: paicolman
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:25 am (GMT -8)

These are the ones I always go here in switzerland (Man, I have to change a bit, allways the same launches and we have zillions here...)

Mostelegg: https://youtu.be/VdcIjCZ4Wug?t=18
Haldigrat South: https://youtu.be/z-1mutiE7K0?t=76
Haldigrat North: https://youtu.be/n54ivwzARaE?t=124
Interlaken Amisbuehl: https://youtu.be/mdikeG7tk8w?t=25
Interlaken "Luegibrüggli": https://youtu.be/4H49WX1bJ_4?t=39

Hang gliding general :: RE: Class-E-to-surface

8 February, 2017 - 13:30
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:30 am (GMT -8)

Quote: I feel like this OK after this thread that's funny as s*** there Launch Potatoe Mike!

No harm done Rick!? Did not mean to get on you about this.

It's a great subject and good for those getting a H4 to understand, as least as we "should" understand it. Glad you kept hammering on LPM.


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The camp fire :: RE: WHAT ANIMAL MADE THESE MARKS?!? — its a mystery!

8 February, 2017 - 13:20
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:20 am (GMT -8)

As soon as I saw it I could see the marks of some type of tree frog. That's my WAG!
The closeup on the left rear corner clearly (to me anyway) shows the outline of a frog. They do this on my house from time to time.

Sweet dreams...


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The camp fire :: RE: WHAT ANIMAL MADE THESE MARKS?!? — its a mystery!

8 February, 2017 - 08:27
Author: Comet
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:27 am (GMT -8)

I dunno, but I'd be checking under the car...

Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 08:07
Author: Ken.de.Russy
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:07 am (GMT -8)

Avnav8r wrote: Ken,

Is that Elings Park?

John Stokes

It is indeed John. No training hill has been in continuous use - for hang gliding - longer. I spent the best years of my life there. Perfect launches from zero to 200' and frequently soarable. Not many hills have flyable conditions more days a year. I miss it.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Vintage 1970's UP wing still flying

8 February, 2017 - 06:27
Author: dayhead
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:27 pm (GMT -8)

I recently acquired a UP Condor 194, and flew it on the training hill. It was a lot of fun to revisit this glider, I used them for instruction in 1981 at Lake Mathews.

It's sorta/kinda like the Wills Wing Alpha, in that it's able to fly at very slow speed.

Deflexors were like the rigging on a sailboat's mast. They would prevent the leading edge from flexing upward and back under load. The sails were made for a straight leading edge, so deflexors were used to keep the leading edge tube relatively straight.

The deflexor cables or the struts could be adjusted in various ways, allowing us to "tune" the glider to improve handling and/or performance to some degree.

Interestingly, they didn't make a glider stronger, in that they would not allow the leading edge tube to flex and dump excess load, like the gliders do now and did before deflexors were introduced.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Finsterwalder Funfex versus Perfex

8 February, 2017 - 05:24
Author: sohrab
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:24 pm (GMT -8)

I had funfex for couple of years it is a really suit glider and gives good altitude , very light glider and easy to setup and handle , i had to quit this glider for increased my weigh.

The camp fire :: RE: WHAT ANIMAL MADE THESE MARKS?!? — its a mystery!

8 February, 2017 - 04:40
Author: Avnav8r
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:40 pm (GMT -8)

Space Aliens!
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Hang gliding general :: RE: new airspace hazard? - buoyant air turbines

8 February, 2017 - 03:55
Author: dbotos
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:55 pm (GMT -8)

This one is pretty neat:

http://www.kpowertechnology.com/crosswind-cableway

From what I can garner, the kite dune goons side to side, pulling along a ground-based cable/rope that turns a flywheel/generator. I think the tricky parts of getting it to operate on its own would be (1) how to make the kite change direction at the end of each pull and (2) how to keep the ground cable system perpendicular to the wind.

The camp fire :: RE: WHAT ANIMAL MADE THESE MARKS?!? — its a mystery!

8 February, 2017 - 03:38
Author: NMERider
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:38 pm (GMT -8)

Looks like tracks from a large Aussie spider or other unusual (to us Yanks) creature, native to Oz.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: new airspace hazard? - buoyant air turbines

8 February, 2017 - 01:45
Author: dbotos
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:45 pm (GMT -8)

from https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_70_7460-1L_Change_1_Obstruction_Marking_and_Lighting_10062016.pdf, which is not directly about AWES, but could pertain to their visibility:

CHAPTER 11. MARKING AND LIGHTING MOORED BALLOONS AND KITES

11.1 Purpose.
The purpose of marking and lighting moored balloons, kites, and their cables or mooring lines is to indicate the presence and general definition of these objects to pilots when approaching from any direction.

11.2 Standards.
These marking and lighting standards pertain to all moored balloons and kites that require marking and lighting under 14 CFR Part 101.

11.3 Marking.
Flag markers should be used on mooring lines to warn pilots of their presence during daylight hours.
1. Display. Markers should be displayed at no more than 50-foot (15-m) intervals and should be visible for at least 1 statute mile.
2. Shape. Markers should be rectangular in shape and not less than 2 feet (0.6 m) on a side. Stiffeners should be used in the borders to expose a large
area and to prevent drooping in calm wind or wrapping around the cable.
3. Color Patterns. One of the following color patterns should be used:
a. Solid Color. Aviation orange.
b. Orange and White. Two triangular sections, one of aviation orange and the
other white, combined to form a rectangle.
c. Refer to paragraph 12.2 Paint Standard.

11.4 Purpose.
Flashing obstruction lights should be used on moored balloons or kites and their mooring lines to warn pilots of their presence during the hours between sunset and sunrise and during periods of reduced visibility. These lights may be operated 24 hours a day.
1. Systems. Flashing red (L-864) or white lights (L-865) may be used to light moored balloons or kites. High-intensity lights (L-856) are not recommended.
2. Display. Flashing lights should be displayed on the top, nose section, tail section, and on the tether cable approximately 15 feet (4.6 m) below the craft to define the extremes of size and shape. Additional lights should be equally spaced along the cable’s overall length for each 350 feet (107 m), or fraction thereof.
3. Exceptions. When the requirements of this paragraph cannot be met, floodlights may be used.

11.5 Operational Characteristics.
The light intensity is controlled by a device (photocell) that changes the intensity when the ambient light changes. The system should automatically turn the lights on and change intensities as ambient light conditions change. The reverse order should apply in changing from nighttime-to-daytime operation. The lights should flash simultaneously.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Kali Shiva HG Helmet

8 February, 2017 - 01:31
Author: idahoDal
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:31 pm (GMT -8)

After making 2 mods to my helmet to make it fit right it has been great. I cut a bit off the plastic trim around the top of the chin guard but it's still a bit more closed in feeling than I like. Otherwise though, it fits good and is super light. Mine currently weighs 1027grams vs 780 for my Skyrunner. Happy to have it. Hope to never need it.