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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: flying Prtugal

24 January, 2015 - 14:11
Author: zamuro
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:11 am (GMT -8)

Very nice!!!. How long is that ridge?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Dream 220, manual and advice needed

24 January, 2015 - 12:32
Author: iliofos
Subject: Much obliged fly people you are great.
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:32 am (GMT -8)

Thanks for all the useful information. Much obliged fly people you are great.

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: New to HG, new to France

24 January, 2015 - 10:45
Author: Tigouille
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:45 am (GMT -8)

hi
without forgetting that it is a good idea to start not too far from home...
fédération francaise de vol libre on Google should give you the list of schools.
atlantique delta will allow you to start fast.They have a few days scheduled soon. check it out.
good flights
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Hang gliding Videos :: flying Prtugal

24 January, 2015 - 10:29
Author: Tigouille
Subject: flying Prtugal
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:29 am (GMT -8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3jyCwD1k8&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688
scenic route...
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Hang gliding Videos :: the secret life of clouds

24 January, 2015 - 10:16
Author: Tigouille
Subject: the secret life of clouds
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:16 am (GMT -8)

http://vimeo.com/36652429
and
http://vimeo.com/84482859?from=outro-local
Worth watching
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Hang gliding general :: RE: No wind landing trouble

24 January, 2015 - 08:22
Author: hs
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:22 am (GMT -8)

Flare with your feet about 3 feet above ground , gives you time to pull in a little to avoid keel hitting ground. Sounds worse then it is with keel mounted cam.

The camp fire :: RE: 6,000 ft/min climb!

24 January, 2015 - 03:22
Author: BBJCaptain
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:22 pm (GMT -8)

First off, I am a Boeing Guy and don't like anything Airbus although we do have an A340 in paint and interior right now. I'm staying far away
from that thing. I am not an airline guy. All my big airplane time has been corporate. I'm not bashing the airline guys but I just couldn't stand
to have to fly with handcuffs on. (OpSpecs)

I think we can all agree that at times there are parts of the sky that even a fighter jet would have serious problems flying in even at there very
high +/- G-ratings. Towering C/B's are a very nasty place to be in anything man made. The BBJ (737) has a G-limit of +2.5 / -1.0 flaps up
or down. The A320 has a G-limit of +2.5 / -1.0 flaps up or slats extended. With the flaps and slats extended it's +2.5 / -0.0 As you can
see that is a very small margin to keep the wings on inside a C/B

That area is right at the equator and has some of the nastiest embedded thunderstorms on the planet. They routinely reach as high
as FL550 and are very fast to develop also usually half as big around as the C/B's in the US. They also form in long lines of multi-cell
systems. In the US the altostratus clouds usually only go up to the low mid 20"s to 30's but at the equator they can reach up to FL430. They
are a lot thicker then cirrus clouds and make it even harder to see the cells visually and on radar. I have been at FL430 for hours in the
altostrat/cirrus soup and never visually seen the cells I had to deviate 40 miles left of track to clear.

Severe thunderstorms, require much stronger updraft speeds then a standard type of storm. The updraft speeds in a multi cell line
storm are a bit stronger than the single cell storm. Multi-cell cluster storms often have updraft speeds around 60 MPH in developing
components, or about 5,500 feet per minute. This is quite fast, keeping in mind that most aircraft can only climb up to 3,000 feet per minute
and start to loss climb rate rather fast above FL290. Only fighter jets and Learjet's have high climb rates above 6000 feet per minute.

This is also why pilots should NEVER try to "out climb" the top of a developing thunderstorm. The strongest updraft speeds lie with the
most intense kind of thunderstorm, the supercell. A supercell is a "continuous cycle" storm, meaning that it has an updraft side and
downdraft side at the same time which are separated from each other allowing the storm to last much longer than 30-45 minutes. In this area
they seem to start developing around 0800 and go long into the night past 2200

The updraft of a supercell also has a broad low and / or mid-level rotation (mesocyclone) which my further boost its speed. Supercell
updrafts generally are stronger than 50 MPH, but 70 or 80 MPH is more typical. In the Great Plains of the United States, supercells often
produce baseball and grapefruit sized hail (not to mention tornadoes) because of the extreme speeds of the updrafts within. Such updrafts
have been known to reach 150 to 175 MPH, or about 12,000 to 15,000 feet per minute! I don't know of any manned aircraft that could survive
that sudden shear and hold altitude and coarse let alone keep there wings on.

The airbus or any other commercial airliner dose not have the performance nor the speed range between Mmo (Vne) and stick shaker
(stall alarm) to climb at 6000fpm and then 8400fpm at FL320. Sadly they waited to long for clearance from ATC before deciding they
needed to deviate around the storm and flew right into the updraft. They didn't have the power or airspeed to get the nose back down in
time. In the recovery they must went past the +2.5 limit and the wings came off.

If you go to about 4:30 and then start listening to the CVR you can hear the co-pilot alert the captain to something he sees. I am assuming that
it is the climb rate increasing but only a guess on my part. He says "Captain Captain Captain" at 4:37 shortly after you can hear the
Overspeed clacker going off at 4:42 at 4:52 you can hear the wind noise start to increase and by 5;00 its almost to loud to hear their voices.

Notice how you never hear the stall alarm go off. I can assure you that if you tried to climb at 6000fpm at FL320 and increase to 11,100fpm the
stall alarm would be screaming at you. The thing that gets me is that you never hear the auto pilot disconnect alert come on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8agL0N9Hcvs

Sadly they got themselves into a spot they should never have been in


yesterdays wx and their route:
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Hang gliding general :: RE: No wind landing trouble

24 January, 2015 - 02:57
Author: smokenjoe50
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:57 pm (GMT -8)

That picture with my tip in the dirt has nothing to do with the length of the stinger. Look how uneven my flare is. Look at the basetube.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Best Tow Rig, Expert Advice

24 January, 2015 - 02:48
Author: AlaskanNewb
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:48 pm (GMT -8)

Samarth.
Got your PM.
emailed you details on my system.
It is easy to build.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Flight at Blackhawk

24 January, 2015 - 02:39
Author: smokenjoe50
Subject: Re: you got lucky
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:39 pm (GMT -8)

soarass wrote: ....your site guide didn't take you out in midair.....

I bet you would be surprised if I told you Mark has learned a thing or two since that deaf retarded took him out at Crestline. I guarantee Mark can out fly you. I would also be willing to bet you have recycled more aluminum than him.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Sounds like fun

24 January, 2015 - 02:10
Author: Skyvine
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:10 pm (GMT -8)

Thanks! Great read.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Flight at Blackhawk

24 January, 2015 - 01:42
Author: NMERider
Subject: Re: you got lucky
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:42 pm (GMT -8)

soarass wrote: ....your site guide didn't take you out in midair.....

Hang gliding general :: Sounds like fun

24 January, 2015 - 01:31
Author: kjj3dan
Subject: Sounds like fun
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:31 pm (GMT -8)

Here is an intersting article I found to copy and paste while doing some research: http://flatheadbeacon.com/2012/09/14/hang-gliding-with-jeff-jobe/

Hang gliding general :: RE: Dinosaur 2015 Comp

24 January, 2015 - 00:55
Author: davisstraub
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:55 pm (GMT -8)

We flew there with cu-nimbs every day. It was July, as I recall. Monsoon season.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Flight at Blackhawk

24 January, 2015 - 00:34
Author: soarass
Subject: you got lucky
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:34 pm (GMT -8)

....your site guide didn't take you out in midair.....

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Flight at Blackhawk

24 January, 2015 - 00:22
Author: haddieman
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:22 pm (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote:
Ord also has a nice LZ with streamer. Ord can then get you over by Silverwood lake which has some great triggers and then you're home. All of this really takes enough flights to become familiar with the way the air tends to work out there. Many fields that appear to be landable when viewed from more than 1K AGL are actually filled with hazards. Also, the dry lake beds have winds that will change though 360 degrees at 10+ mph with no visible indicators. Not to sound discouraging but there are more way to go wrong than right in that whole high desert area.


Thanks for the info! I knew there had to be a better way of getting to Crestline than just going straight across at that lake. That's not discouraging to me at all. I'm perfectly happy to build up my knowledge and not take unnecessary risks because of ignorance. Perhaps in the future I will be able to spend more time flying in that area and learn enough to make the crossing.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Flight at Blackhawk

24 January, 2015 - 00:10
Author: NMERider
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:10 pm (GMT -8)

haddieman wrote: remmoore wrote: Nice flight and video, Haddie. At one point, you were pondering an attempt at Crestline - how high were you?

RM

My highest altitude was around 11k msl. I really wanted to go for Crestline but it looked iffy and I wasn't familiar enough with the area to know exactly where it was.

Here's my tracklog: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/leonardo/flight/1054762 Well done CB!
You made a wise decision to stay over the Lucerne Valley. To fly OTB to Crestline from where you'd first thought about it requires 15K minimum. However, there are plenty of places to land around Big Bear at 8K MSL. Also, there is typically a convergence over Big Bear Lake that can punch you through 15K and give you Crestline on one glide. The place where you hit 11K put you in good position to head for Ord Mountain in Apple Valley which typically works.

Ord also has a nice LZ with streamer. Ord can then get you over by Silverwood lake which has some great triggers and then you're home. All of this really takes enough flights to become familiar with the way the air tends to work out there. Many fields that appear to be landable when viewed from more than 1K AGL are actually filled with hazards. Also, the dry lake beds have winds that will change though 360 degrees at 10+ mph with no visible indicators. Not to sound discouraging but there are more way to go wrong than right in that whole high desert area.

My first ever X/C from Blackhawk landed me within 100 yards of where you landed but not before I buzzed the girl's soccer team. Afterwards their coach got very interested in what I had just done so I gave him the whole pitch about training, etc. Anyhow, it was a very enjoyable video with smooth soundtrack and good subtitles. I was rooting for you from the get-go.

In case anyone want to see a different flight from Blackhawk to the Ord Mtn LZ: http://youtu.be/pmrOGpCibcA I even fly over some of the same terrain but in different conditions.

Cheers, JD

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Best Tow Rig, Expert Advice

24 January, 2015 - 00:06
Author: dave hopkins
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:06 pm (GMT -8)

A design I build works very well. It uses the front struts bearings and brakes off a small car. Not front wheel drive. A single reservoir master cylinder. Mount the struts In plywood base. For a drum I used a piece of 45 gallon water heater. Mount plywood or aluminum disk. When you cut the drum ( a angle grinder or skill saw) leave 6 tabs to mount the disk. (Inner and outer) . Your brake will be on one side and a automatic tranny flywheel mounted on the other for rewind. Use a robust start motor for the rewind.
An important feature is to have a stiff spring and pressure release handle interface on the brake pressure rod and the master cyclinder. This allows the operator to Instantly release pressure and let it back on. Don't fly on winches that don't have almost instant pressure control.
All the parts for this can be bought or scrounged in a junk yard and auto parts store. Accept the line. Probably can be build it for under 500 $ depending on line.
When I built mine we used 3/16 hard braided polypro. It cost us 8$ for 1500'. It was a bit draggy when you had several thousand feet in the air .

Hang gliding general :: RE: Dinosaur 2015 Comp

23 January, 2015 - 23:33
Author: dave hopkins
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:33 pm (GMT -8)

Yeah, Dinosaur is A great place to fly. WAAAY out in the boondocks. On my last flight there on my VR I had gone down the ridge past town. I stopped to tank up . After about one 360 I hit lift so strong it almost ripped the instruments off my base bar. I gripped a bit tighter and bank steeper and rode it up to 14000' and left the ridge. Enough of that !
Those big mtn sites have some extreme lift condition in mid summer. Go there with your eyes wide open and feel no shame if some days you don't fly.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Mobile radio

23 January, 2015 - 22:00
Author: WMichelsen
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:00 pm (GMT -8)

Cell phone and satellite SMS transmitters (ie. Spot, InReach, etc) have definitely become prominent for ground retrieve details. But, 2-m radio is still highly utilized for air-ground communication, for myself and all my flying buddies. Radio is far from being discarded.

You'll find a wide variety of opinions on 50W mobile units. You don't really need anything more than the most basic 2-meter job. But, I have found the remote mounted face allows for much more convenient mounting options. For me, the face plate mounts on my vehicle console, with the bulky main unit under the passenger seat. Just for the record, mine is a Yaesu FT-7800R (relatively expensive for the day). But, almost any 2-meter mobile unit of the past decade is fine.
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