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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Looking For Thermalling Tips?

16 March, 2017 - 13:04
Author: red
Subject: Looking For Thermalling Tips?
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:04 am (GMT -8)

Flying Circus wrote: The site is the Paeroa Range . . . on my next visit I will be much better prepared and a better pilot due to the help and advice of all in this forum. Cheers
Christian Christian,

'Way to go, mate!

We'll be cheering for you.


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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Summer breeze makes you feel fine

16 March, 2017 - 12:21
Author: Charlie Romeo
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:21 am (GMT -8)

Thanks for those links Waveview,i think i managed to get to the final hurdle to be told i need more posts to prove i"m not a spammer . I wonder how many posts is enough? I hope your ramp launch went well Nicos....sometimes it is quite tricky.

Hang gliding general :: Visiting Fort Funston, looking to rent /guidance

16 March, 2017 - 12:04
Author: macsux
Subject: Visiting Fort Funston, looking to rent /guidance
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:04 am (GMT -8)

Hi

I'll be In San Francisco in apr 22 to may 6 on business but wanted to see if I can fly fort Funston someway. Anyone willing to rent a glider and maybe take a trip down with me I dont have car, but I'll obviously compensate. I can bring my harness and all other stuff but not the glider. I have h3 in ushpa and h4 in Canada. I normally fly t2c, but would take any glider in safe condition. Anyone got a spare glider they can rent me, ideally go with me to fly as I'm new to the site and always like to have local guidance when visiting new place.

Cheers
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Delta Club Bratislava

16 March, 2017 - 11:41
Author: Rebro
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:41 am (GMT -8)

...and here is new video with my "new" glider and my first fly on t. I'm in blue WW harness.

Link

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Looking For Thermalling Tips?

16 March, 2017 - 06:18
Author: Flying Circus
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:18 pm (GMT -8)

The site is the Paeroa Range which is just south of Rotorua in the middle of the North Island here in New Zealand. Its about a three hour drive from Auckland. It was an amazing day for a first visit to the site and a first ever thermalling experience. I am looking forward to going back hopefully before end of summer here. It goes without saying that on my next visit I will be much better prepared and a better pilot due to the help and advice of all in this forum. Cheers Christian

Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

16 March, 2017 - 05:46
Author: klh
Subject: Folex
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:46 pm (GMT -8)

Folex carpet cleaner is pretty good on dirt, grass stains, blood. Probably works on dung. It's what WW uses to clean sails at the shop. Available at Home Depot in large spray bottles.

Acetone used sparingly is good for oils and inks.

As you suspect, once something saturates into the weave it's going to at least leave traces.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Flying Indian Valley

16 March, 2017 - 02:49
Author: WA6BD
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:49 pm (GMT -8)

info:

http://www.hanggliding.org/wiki/Indian_Valley

fly safe
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

16 March, 2017 - 02:44
Author: KTMPilot
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:44 pm (GMT -8)

[/quote]Has anyone had any experience and success in cleaning their sails and harnesses when subjected to fresh cow cakes?[quote]

Unfortunately, yes.
I use a cotton ball soaked in regular drug store hydrogen peroxide to soak /blot the stained fabric/sailcloth area and then let it work for about 5 minutes. Follow up with a warm water wash / mild detergent/soft bristle scrub brush of the area to remove the residual stain pigment.. Do not put hydrogen peroxide on the airframe.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

16 March, 2017 - 02:27
Author: red
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:27 pm (GMT -8)

idahoDal wrote: The aircraft grade stuff is on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Green-13406-Aircraft-Precision/dp/B001VXU7OE
I have never found actual proof of regular Simple Green eating aluminum when used normally. IdahoDal,

I did not find the Lockheed source documents, but I did find this:

http://www.swaircraftappraisals.com/MeyersForum/Maintenance/Simple%20Green.pdf

It says the metal mass was reduced by measurable amounts, but that was a long test. I know the USAF banned the product, in aircraft use, some years back. As I said, there is now a version that maker says is okay on aluminum. I couldn't say, there.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Superstitions in hang gliding?

16 March, 2017 - 02:06
Author: piano_man
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:06 pm (GMT -8)

Never say dead or die on launch.
Never ever say - "watch this" as it pertains to some maneuver you're about to perform.
Don't talk about or listen to chatter regarding accidents or bad landings on launch. Avoid anything negative as you begin to set up and launch.
Avoid negative thoughts in general and especially as you begin your landing approach. Don't fly if you didn't get enough sleep. 5 hours is pushing it for me.

3 red flags before launching and I'm grounded. A bit subjective.
So let's say I bump my head, stub my toe, or trip and almost fall, in other words, clumsier than usual - that's one red flag. Or I lock myself out of the house before driving off. That's another one. Let's say I leave the house and drive for 30 minutes before I realize that I forgot to grab my harness - definitely a red flag. Now depending on the day and how I'm feeling I may reclassify a red flag for a yellow one (2 yellow flags = 1 red) in which case, if I have 2 red flags and a yellow - I consider myself pushing the envelop and try my best to stay on point. All of this is just a way for me to surmise or sort of keep track as to how I'm functioning on some basic everyday activities before hucking myself off of a cliff. If I'm sort of loopy or forgetful on a particular day I'll know it and hopefully think of something else to do with my time (like play the piano). If I decide to fly anyways, I'll know I'm on shaky ground.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

16 March, 2017 - 01:18
Author: idahoDal
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:18 pm (GMT -8)

I was hoping to find something on WW's website but did not. Does anyone know if different sail materials require different cleaning agents? Reading more about the aircraft stuff from Simple Green it says that its safe for carbon fiber too so if that works well enough on our sails maybe its worth the investment? Or should we just be using plain old Dawn or Joy dishsoap?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Superstitions in hang gliding?

16 March, 2017 - 00:57
Author: waveview
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:57 pm (GMT -8)

On final, if you look at the fence line that you must clear to get into the LZ
- that is what you will land on.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

16 March, 2017 - 00:44
Author: DMarley
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:44 pm (GMT -8)

Thanks all for the suggestions.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Summer breeze makes you feel fine

15 March, 2017 - 23:46
Author: Nicos
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:46 pm (GMT -8)

Make some more posts Charlie, love to see yer vid. Byron was my first ramp launch

To embed a youtube vid, select your URL, then click on the YouTube button (top, right) to create the tag/code. Make sure it starts like http://www..., not like https://www

Code: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3eNqk0ZMME[/youtube]

...gives you this:


Link

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Looking For Thermalling Tips?

15 March, 2017 - 23:44
Author: flybop
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:44 pm (GMT -8)

Ditto on your willingness to take, and learn from, the well intention-ed criticism here.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Suprone revisited, the "Fenison Fly Bar"

15 March, 2017 - 23:31
Author: Nicos
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:31 pm (GMT -8)

Thanks Jim!

Now I need to get me a bar and clamps for the DTs — any ideas for getting the clamps fabricated (Airborne Sting3)? Bit nervous about the clamps compromising the DTs...

Hang gliding general :: RE: Flying Indian Valley

15 March, 2017 - 23:15
Author: DAVE 858
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:15 pm (GMT -8)

I was trying to find the launch on google earth so I could calculate the glide to the bailout & the main LZ, but I was unable to locate it. I have only flown there once, but from what I recall it was a relatively easy glide to the main LZ. Can someone pm me the coordinates to both. It would be nice to get the beta on the mt hough launch & lz too. Thanks.

Dave

Hang gliding general :: RE: Use of 303 Aerospace Protectant on dacron sails / harness?

15 March, 2017 - 21:34
Author: idahoDal
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:34 pm (GMT -8)

The aircraft grade stuff is on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Green-13406-Aircraft-Precision/dp/B001VXU7OE

I have never found actual proof of regular Simple Green eating aluminum when used normally. I did find this: http://dfwptp.blogspot.com/2009/12/simple-green-speaks-up.html

http://simplegreen.com/faqs/

Quote: When used with caution and according to the instructions, Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner has been safely and successfully used to clean aluminum. Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner, Crystal Simple Green Industrial Cleaner & Degreaser, and Simple Green Pressure Washer Concentrates have been used on aircraft, automotive, industrial and consumer aluminum items for over 20 years. However, caution and common sense must be used: aluminum is a soft metal that easily corrodes with unprotected exposure to water. The aqueous-base and alkalinity of Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner can accelerate the corrosion process. Therefore, contact times for unprotected or unpainted aluminum surfaces should be kept as brief as the job will allow - never for more than 10 minutes. Large cleaning jobs should be conducted in smaller-area stages to achieve lower contact time. Rinsing after cleaning should always be extremely thorough - paying special attention to flush out cracks and crevices to remove all Simple Green product residues. Unfinished, uncoated or unpainted aluminum cleaned with Simple Green products should receive some sort of protectant after cleaning to prevent oxidation.

Simple Green has also developed break-through water based cleaners that are safe for use on metals, plastics, rubber and high tech alloys. Extreme Simple Green Aircraft & Precision Cleaner, Pro Series Simple Green Automotive Cleaner, and Simple Green Pro HD are available on both the industrial and retail markets, respectively. These products were initially developed for the aircraft industry and extensive testing shows that they are safe and effective on a variety of metals and other sensitive surfaces even in the most extreme circumstances.

Simple Green Stainless Steel One Step Cleaner & Polish is another option for cleaning polished aluminum. This product is designed for light duty metal cleaning and polishing.

I'm comfortable using it but ymmv.

Software, Research & Technology :: RE: Flymaster NAV TAS

15 March, 2017 - 21:02
Author: Mellowmoods
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:02 pm (GMT -8)

That's a GREAT idea! I have gopro mounts to use. Thanks!
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Looking For Thermalling Tips?

15 March, 2017 - 20:58
Author: Mellowmoods
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:58 pm (GMT -8)

Thanks for taking this constructive criticism for what it is meant to be.... constructive. You will be a much better pilot for it, and others will benefit from it as well.
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