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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

17 April, 2015 - 06:00
Author: Nicos
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:00 pm (GMT -8)

I tie a knot also, just in case of mechanical failure

Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

17 April, 2015 - 05:05
Author: fly,surf,&ski
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:05 pm (GMT -8)

CAL wrote: what really messed it up is that the back strap stayed on and the glider folded around the strap taking out all the battens and base bar, two lower sprogs and the lower leading edge.


That might have been what saved the glider. A good buddy of mine forgot to tied down his Aeros Stealth KPL (one of the latest and greatest topless gliders at the time) leaving Frisco peak and just as he realized what he did it was too late and the thing was airborne.


Needless to say it blew off the truck at 70+ MPH and was a complete and total lose.(almost none of the tubing not bent and mangled) At least you guys might be able to fix the glider for way, way less than it is worth. Especially with the right ragged out donor glider.......

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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

17 April, 2015 - 04:52
Author: Dave Jacob
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:52 pm (GMT -8)

CAL wrote: ... we think that the metal mechanical device that holds the strap tight failed, we purchased the strap from harbor freight, .

Our stores are becoming so saturated with cheap imports. Harbor Freight can provide some decent hardware at a good price but it is also ground zero for pot metal and other quality issues. I did an annual on my T2C at the end of last season. When I installed the zip ties (bought at home depot) on the cantilevered hang strap, one of them slid right out of the catch and no it wasn't installed backwards. I've been using zip ties in the semiconductor manufacturing sector for 25 years and never seen this kind of failure. The quality of the ties looked good but I tossed the whole pack and bought some Panduit ties. Things we use to take for granted are biting us more and more. Real sorry about your wing. I've never even questioned a strap before.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: May 23, 2015 Happy Birthday, Otto Lilienthal :: Celebrate!!

17 April, 2015 - 03:19
Author: tom emery
Subject: I will
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:19 pm (GMT -8)

I will be there. My contribution is two new (potential) pilots, maybe more.

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: What grip do you use on launch ?

17 April, 2015 - 03:01
Author: Avnav8r
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:01 pm (GMT -8)

Mr. Pou,

I don't know why Lookout teaches the bottle grip. It is not a good grip when launching in higher winds. I guess they what you to have a light grip, but it doesn't always help you control the glider. I am glad that someone showed you the grapevine grip

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HangGliding.Org Events :: Have padded Rack, will be heading South

17 April, 2015 - 02:19
Author: Roadrunner
Subject: Have padded Rack, will be heading South
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:19 pm (GMT -8)

I will be traveling down from the Bay Area to Southern Calif next Month. I do not know yet which Day I will be leaving, But it will be in May. If any one needs their glider hauled down there i will be going to Indio California.

Here is my E-Mail address, and my phone number: CCMCK@GOLDSTAE.NET 925-497-1059

Good By: The BIG Guy

Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 23:04
Author: CAL
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:04 pm (GMT -8)

dievhart wrote: Cal, I have to ask...was it the strap or the knot (or rack) that failed?
If it was the strap, please tell us which one.. (mfg)...
Diev

we are not sure we were on the freeway in lots of wind we think that the metal mechanical device that holds the strap tight failed, we purchased the strap from harbor freight, we tried to find it but couldn't it took us a while to slow down, what really messed it up is that the back strap stayed on and the glider folded around the strap taking out all the battens and base bar, two lower sprogs and the lower leading edge. we will be using different straps, we will use a second front strap that will go across all the gliders.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 22:46
Author: dievhart
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:46 pm (GMT -8)

Cal, I have to ask...was it the strap or the knot (or rack) that failed?
If it was the strap, please tell us which one.. (mfg)...
Diev
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: nut lands gyrocopter on Capital lawn ! Very bad for pt 103 !

16 April, 2015 - 20:38
Author: aireout
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:38 pm (GMT -8)

Who would paint the post office logo on their personal aircraft? It's the aviation version of "going postal".

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: nut lands gyrocopter on Capital lawn ! Very bad for pt 103 !

16 April, 2015 - 20:37
Author: aireout
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:37 pm (GMT -8)

Who would paint the post office logo on their personal aircraft? It's the aviation version of "going postal".

Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 19:32
Author: davisstraub
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:32 am (GMT -8)

http://ozreport.com/freeClassifieds.php
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 18:54
Author: Windlord
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:54 am (GMT -8)

Check the classifieds here. It's only a 136 though. Sorry to hear about the freeway mishap.
Happened to a few of us hauling surfboards when the whole rack came off, but that was a looooooong time ago.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: A few aerotow take offs and landings 2015

16 April, 2015 - 18:26
Author: DAVE858
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:26 am (GMT -8)

I am not aerotow rated, but have aerotowed in the past. I do not see any benefit of having someone running along side the glider whilest holding the sidewire. Seems more like a recipe for disaster rather than adding any safety component.

Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: What grip do you use on launch ?

16 April, 2015 - 18:11
Author: Mr Pou
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:11 am (GMT -8)

Paul H wrote: Some of us avoid those problems by not switching to a bottle grip during our launches.
Edit: To make sure I was clear enough, I use the grapevine from start to finish during a launch. I wanted to ensure nobody would come along and think I avoid the specified launch problems by using a bottle grip from start to finish. No way, no how.

It's amazing how useful it can be for newbs to go through some of these older threads. My first two times at the hill, it ended up I was using the bottle grip on the DTs, and I was having gripping issues. The instructor told me to grip lightly, but didn't suggest there were other types of grips. Last Saturday, I had a different instructor who recommended I try the grapevine grip. I guess a normal grapevine grip, forearms wrapped around from the outside and the hand flat thumbs up against the DTs.

Holy cow! This was so good, I could feel the glider pop off my shoulders and tug up against the hang strap. And the good thing about that open grip is the DTs just slide on up as needed. It greatly improved my feel for the launch, and I will continue to use this grip going forward.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 17:16
Author: CAL
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:16 am (GMT -8)

CHassan wrote: Glad it wasn't due to flight damage, but that sucks!


for sure CHassan, Red was with us, he was the one that put the article about having a frame for T2 154, but we want a T2C 144, KC now weighs 180 and sometimes weighs in less than that so a 144 would be more fitting
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 17:07
Author: CHassan
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:07 am (GMT -8)

Glad it wasn't due to flight damage, but that sucks!
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Hang gliding general :: Looking to buy a T2C

16 April, 2015 - 17:04
Author: CAL
Subject: Looking to buy a T2C
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:04 am (GMT -8)

K.C. and I are currently flying T2's one of our gliders was totaled after a strap broke and fell of the truck. so if anyone has a T2C for sale I am interested, PM me with pics and price, what the sail is made of etc THANKS
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The camp fire :: RE: It's just like a Dragonfly but...

16 April, 2015 - 16:41
Author: tiger12
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:41 am (GMT -8)

The airplane in the previous post is the "Connie", designed and built by Bobby Bailey.

The first plane in the thread looks like a Buccaneer, also a Bobby Bailey design.

Cheers

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: nut lands gyrocopter on Capital lawn ! Very bad for pt 103 !

16 April, 2015 - 16:10
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:10 am (GMT -8)

1htalp9 wrote: old newbie wrote: Which is why we should always be armed when we fly

Just ask Dell!

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: nut lands gyrocopter on Capital lawn ! Very bad for pt 103 !

16 April, 2015 - 16:05
Author: DAVE858
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:05 am (GMT -8)

They should have shot his ass down...