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Hang gliding general :: RE: harness facts

17 September, 2014 - 02:20
Author: Nicos
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:20 pm (GMT -8)

Half a fist for me.. I like the control of hanging low

Hang gliding Videos :: First flight on a topless. Sport2 -> T2

17 September, 2014 - 02:10
Author: op
Subject: First flight on a topless. Sport2 -> T2
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:10 pm (GMT -8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT4CJ17r2BA
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Hang gliding general :: RE: harness facts

17 September, 2014 - 01:09
Author: littlepilot
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:09 pm (GMT -8)

In my experience, i like to have as low a hang as possible for control. BUT!!!! I do shoulder tow (or pro tow if you like) and have found that in both my pod and cocoon i must hang at least another 2-3 inches higher as the tow pulls me down towards the bar and stretches the hang loop and straps to the point where my chute is blocking my pitch control pulling in. it doesnt do that when I dive for say a maneuver (stays pretty good) but I'd watch for it. It wont kill you, but it will bug the crap out of you on tow.

thats all. low and fast!!

have fun!

my 2 cents
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Dallas Area Tandems

17 September, 2014 - 00:58
Author: Ttsjeff
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:58 pm (GMT -8)

Cowboy up in Wharton is your only bet. Call Bart and tiki

Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

17 September, 2014 - 00:28
Author: Avnav8r
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:28 pm (GMT -8)

wayne ripley wrote: I don't agree that the Eagle is a dud,a fine glider just a bit to much bar pressure and not very fast but faster then a Falcon,good sink rate and easy to land. You could do worse.

I agree with you. I had an Eagle 145 and it was a great glider. Originally Wills Wing was going to produce a Sport 2 EZ that was to replace the Eagle, but they never did. I currently fly a Freedom 170 which I truly love and I have been flying for 39 years! However, you should do well on the S2 and if you can afford to hang on to the Falcon, do so.

John Stokes
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link material

17 September, 2014 - 00:03
Author: pud
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:03 pm (GMT -8)

brian scharp wrote: pud wrote: On the other hand the heaver pilot with the same relative link strength is somehow seen to be working with a different set of rules and is perceived to be in additional danger. This is illogical. How about the fear of being an additional danger - as in to the tug operator - is that also illogical?
Tug operators seem happy to tow tandem gliders, the equivalent the biggest fattest solo pilot you are ever likely to encounter, so yes illogical.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 22:18
Author: Eteamjack
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:18 pm (GMT -8)

Leave the Eagle alone if you have the funds for an S2.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link material

16 September, 2014 - 20:15
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:15 pm (GMT -8)

pud wrote: On the other hand the heaver pilot with the same relative link strength is somehow seen to be working with a different set of rules and is perceived to be in additional danger. This is illogical. How about the fear of being an additional danger - as in to the tug operator - is that also illogical?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 20:14
Author: psilyguy
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:14 pm (GMT -8)

...and there's always the freedom.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Percentage of long term Pilots who are still flying?

16 September, 2014 - 19:41
Author: HGXC
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:41 am (GMT -8)

Try going here for current gliders on sale.

http://www.wingsandwheels.com/wantads1.htm

Dennis
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Percentage of long term Pilots who are still flying?

16 September, 2014 - 19:38
Author: HGXC
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:38 am (GMT -8)

waltspoint wrote: Sailplane soaring is great! I prefer hanggliding (like most of us here), but I'd be completely satisfied with sailplanes if that was the only thing available. That's what I plan to do when my knees and back go bad. If you train up in them, spend most of your time/$ in the cheaper funkier ones, with an occasional flight in a Grob or something nice. Unless you're rich of course! It's just like single vs. double-surface HGs. Both great in their way. There's an operation in Hollister, actually run by an ex-HG flyer. I think there's a club out of an airfield closer to Diablo too. Oh, and get yourself an RC glider, cheap and very fun! Good luck, /jd

That club is operated by Bill Bush and old hang gliding buddy from New England. Bill is a great guy.

Dennis
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Percentage of long term Pilots who are still flying?

16 September, 2014 - 19:36
Author: HGXC
Subject: Re: Beyound being horny
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:36 am (GMT -8)

Roadrunner wrote: Hi Guys:

You guys, well most of you don't know me. But. you should know that I am a competent Pilot. I love to Fly. When I am up in the air, I feel like I am home. The expression "Horny to Fly" well the expression of being (Horny to fly) does not express how badly I want to Fly. I would say that I am beyound being Horny. I desperatly want to fly. I have even thought about getting some Sail-Plane air-Time. Question, do any of you guys fly Sail-planes? If you do fly Sail planes, do you have any good advice?

Ok, this is about it: Good By The BIG Guy CCMCK@GOLDSTATE.NET

I started in 74 and first joined Glider Sports International for a year or so then ushga #20732

I have been flying sailplanes for a little over 2 years ...I have my license and own a Ventus. Its been great fun and exciting to fly a fast high performing glider. I would suggest that most HGing pilots without any stick time will need the same regular instruction as anyone else. HGers don't have rudders and turn coordination is very different. You are flying at least twice as fast in a 1000lb glider that has 3 times the performance. Your are usually landing at airports with traffic, out landings are complicated and the field selection much more refined.

That said, you do know how to thermal, fly a glider and understand the process of finding lift, coring thermals and choosing fields and all that is useful.

Try not to put too much pressure on yourself, I did and it was wasted energy, I'm a driven guy and it wasn't helpful. If you join a soaring club you usually get instruction free, (you pay for the tow and sometimes glider depending on the club), free instruction means you need to take turns and you are on the clubs clock not yours. You can always go to a commercial operation and pay more and get trained faster.

PM me if you have any more questions.

Dennis
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link material

16 September, 2014 - 19:09
Author: pud
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:09 am (GMT -8)

brian scharp wrote: ... What about low altitude breaks and possible stalls? Have smaller pilots been experiencing fewer of those?

Our tow group logs show it is generally the heaver pilot likely to experience a link break (given the same link strength).
This of course stands to reason and I don’t think many would argue otherwise.

So, a lightweight pilot with effectively a stronger link has fewer aborted tows meaning a reduced chance of a dangerous link break. At the same time they are not seen to be disadvantaged and are happily towed up without any further to do.
On the other hand the heaver pilot with the same relative link strength is somehow seen to be working with a different set of rules and is perceived to be in additional danger. This is illogical.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 18:28
Author: darkcloud
Subject: Sport 2
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:28 am (GMT -8)

Dave Gills wrote: My instructor recommended an WW Eagle.

He said a Sport 2 was too much glider for me at this time.
I transitioned from a Falcon 1-195 to an Eagle 164 and although there was noticeable improvement in performance, it was a "non-event." I would have gone for a Sport 2 had there been a nice, inexpensive used one when I made the Eagle purchase.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Percentage of long term Pilots who are still flying?

16 September, 2014 - 18:05
Author: Billyjoe
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:05 am (GMT -8)

#38,972 began @ LMFP summer of '83 at age 46. Bought a new F4 recently and still aero towing most every chance I get. Get down to Tennessee several times a year. Have some sailplane, Super Floater and trike time but nothing beats HG. Hard to imagine not being able to fly.

Bill

Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 17:36
Author: mbadley
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:36 am (GMT -8)

Well, if you want to take BABY steps - I guess transitioning from a Falcon to an Eagle is the way to go.... but, the Eagle is a dog, a dud, whatever... It looks like it should be a better glider than it is - but the huge chord and lack of battens really makes it a very low performer. Marginally better than a Falcon and with all that bar pressure - a big pain in the rear to fly fast, including a huge sink rate if you do, and not much easier to land than a Sport. I had one and got rid of it fast.

Why bother with it? ?? ???

The Sport line of gliders is the best intermediate glider-line ever made. To this day, you can still grab an old Sport and have a great flight.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 17:32
Author: jyoder111
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:32 am (GMT -8)

I went from a Falcon to the Sport 2 and then back to the Falcon. I had flown the Falcon for a good long time and felt bullet-proof on it even in heavy turbulence. Flying the Sport 2, I just didn't feel safe enough-- the lag in roll response, the slipping in turns, PIO, not having the option to stuff the bar and get down... I found I was stressed out and didn't enjoy flying as much without that extra safety margin.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Percentage of long term Pilots who are still flying?

16 September, 2014 - 17:30
Author: Karl_A
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:30 am (GMT -8)

35092, 1982

Been flying Funston lately & found my desire to fly Miss Brite (Litespeed RX 3.5) in marginal, crowded conditions has completely evaporated. Hoping this season - fall/winter/spring - will be better at Mission and Ed Levin than last season was.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Transitioning from Falcon to Sport 2?

16 September, 2014 - 17:13
Author: wayne ripley
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:13 am (GMT -8)

I don't agree that the Eagle is a dud,a fine glider just a bit to much bar pressure and not very fast but faster then a Falcon,good sink rate and easy to land. You could do worse.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Weak link material

16 September, 2014 - 15:38
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:38 am (GMT -8)

pud wrote: Smaller pilots have been effectively testing ‘strong links’ for years.
I can’t say I’ve read reports of smaller pilots suffering any more then their larger ‘light link’ counterparts! Thanks. What about low altitude breaks and possible stalls? Have smaller pilots been experiencing fewer of those?