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Hang gliding general :: RE: Not-wings-level landing

23 March, 2017 - 02:32
Author: red
Subject: Not-wings-level landing
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:32 pm (GMT -8)

Campers,

Way back in the day, I watched Bob Hoover in the Rockwell P-51 Mustang land on one wheel only, and go the full length of the runway like that. He lifted off then, made a tight 180 degree turn, and came down the same runway, full length, on the other wheel. What a show! Then later, he did the same two passes, one wheel only, with a twin-engined Shrike Commander. When Bob finally landed, he had both engines cut and feathered. He taxied in (just coasting) and calmly stopped the big Shrike with the front wheel parked ON a baseball cap in front of the stands. The show announcer said "I lose more $5 bets to Bob like that."


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Hang gliding general :: RE: Not-wings-level landing

23 March, 2017 - 02:11
Author: Jason
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:11 pm (GMT -8)

kukailimoku wrote: No kiddin'.

I've done the one-wheel-first bit as part of some heavy crosswind landings but going in a straight line, plenty hard enough for me. I can't imagine figuring out how to turn at the same time.

turning away from the wind no less.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Not-wings-level landing

23 March, 2017 - 01:16
Author: kukailimoku
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:16 pm (GMT -8)

No kiddin'.

I've done the one-wheel-first bit as part of some heavy crosswind landings but going in a straight line, plenty hard enough for me. I can't imagine figuring out how to turn at the same time.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Not-wings-level landing

23 March, 2017 - 01:13
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:13 pm (GMT -8)

Makes me wish I'd grown up to be a bush pilot.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

23 March, 2017 - 00:16
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:16 pm (GMT -8)

TjW wrote: For those of you imagining a stinky end to J.D.'s flight, let me say I spent time raking it out on Thu and Sat, and whatever it started as, it was composted to the point of being essentially fluffy dirt.
Thank you for helping maintain our LZ!
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

23 March, 2017 - 00:13
Author: TjW
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 pm (GMT -8)

For those of you imagining a stinky end to J.D.'s flight, let me say I spent time raking it out on Thu and Sat, and whatever it started as, it was composted to the point of being essentially fluffy dirt.

Hang gliding general :: Not-wings-level landing

22 March, 2017 - 23:03
Author: kukailimoku
Subject: Not-wings-level landing
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:03 pm (GMT -8)

Okay, I've slid in sideways with one tip on the ground at a dune site but DANG...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUy0pyRXTlo
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Hello / first post

22 March, 2017 - 22:07
Author: dayhead
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:07 pm (GMT -8)

Radio controlled gliders can provide a lot of fun and also allow you to pick up some aeronautical knowledge with little risk to life and limb. It's a dirt cheap hobby nowadays, compared to when I first took it up in '75.

Go to RCGroups.com and scroll down to the sailplane forums for a wealth of good info and advice.

While there is a world of difference between being in the glider and standing still watching it, you can learn very quickly why turning into the wind is advised versus turning downwind, and why airspeed control is so important for efficiency.
Gliding and soaring well requires more aeronautical knowledge than does motorized flight.

That said, now that I'm officially an old fart I do appreciate motor-gliders.

I got my first hang glider in '76, traded all my RC gliders for it. There was no instruction available, so I had to teach myself, and the model glider flying was helpful to me in that endeavor, I believe.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Baja Mexico helicopter crash

22 March, 2017 - 22:02
Author: designbydave
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:02 pm (GMT -8)

Almost everyone, when filming an incident, drops the camera as the action is happening. It's a strange reflex that almost everyone, even experienced camera operators like myself exhibit.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Baja Mexico helicopter crash

22 March, 2017 - 21:31
Author: dayhead
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:31 pm (GMT -8)

ChattaroyMan wrote: I'm all for banning wires through the air in our country. Put them underground. With more helicopters and now more drones .... wires through the air should be 19th Century. They are not only dangerous to air traffic they are way too susceptible to storm damage and resulting power outages, fires, electrocutions, etc. They waist one heck of a lot of space as well.

I'm with you on this but I'm sure it ain't never gonna happen, except maybe here and there on a small scale.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Hello / first post

22 March, 2017 - 20:17
Author: flybop
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:17 pm (GMT -8)

David, there is a fairly active group of pilots in Pa. I spent some time there in the fall and managed to fly 5 sites. I am originally from Pa.

As far as how often goes, that depends first on the weather. Once you get to know the group you will be in the loop so you will get info on who is going where and when. Basically there will be pilots flying every weekend and often during the week.

So, with spring fast approaching this is a great time to get started. One thing that has not been mentioned here yet is: If you are not in very good shape start getting there. The training hill will be physical. Once you are soaring hg is much less physically demanding. Don't worry about gear yet. That will be provided with your training.

Ellenville may be a good bet for training. If you can plan on spending a few days to a week there to get as much training in as short a time as possible.

Good luck.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 19:08
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:08 am (GMT -8)

brian scharp wrote: Just a little play on words as it sounds like you flew to s***. Perhaps your flying went to s***?
I'm glad it wasn't a total s*** landing. Since compost is generally created in a heap it may be fair to say that I landed in a heap and hence the play on words.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 18:22
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:22 am (GMT -8)

Just a little play on words as it sounds like you flew to s***. Perhaps your flying went to s***?
I'm glad it wasn't a total s*** landing.

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 18:07
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:07 am (GMT -8)

WA6BD wrote: NMERider wrote: The plan was to drag my feet through it then flare until I realized that if the keel dragged badly I could nose over hard so I chose to center-punch the compost heap..

dead center too.

i once landed in the only bush in a field of cactus while in mexico, sure enough there was a cactus in the middle of the bush.... i was pulling cactus thorns out of my legs for a few days. La Salina is the place i got the nickname Cactus Jack.
Yikes! I've heard some horror stories about large open fields north of Ranchita that appear to be fields of grass from a few thousand feet but when you drop in to land it's all spiky cactus. One of my fears of landing in brush or fields of tall grasses is the presence of rodents. That means rattle snakes. I heard about one pilot who went to squat behind a bush and was bitten on the cheek by a rattler.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 18:02
Author: NMERider
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:02 am (GMT -8)

brian scharp wrote: Quote: ...it's like you were drawn to the stink pile by magnetic force...
Flies to s***? Sterilized compost. No odor at all. I need to buy a few bags for the vegetable plants we just bought for our garden patch. Nice and soft with no objectionable characteristics. I dramatized the narration as I was coming in but the post pile-in laughter was real.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 17:37
Author: WA6BD
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:37 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: The plan was to drag my feet through it then flare until I realized that if the keel dragged badly I could nose over hard so I chose to center-punch the compost heap..

dead center too.

i once landed in the only bush in a field of cactus while in mexico, sure enough there was a cactus in the middle of the bush.... i was pulling cactus thorns out of my legs for a few days. La Salina is the place i got the nickname Cactus Jack.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 17:16
Author: brian scharp
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:16 am (GMT -8)

Quote: ...it's like you were drawn to the stink pile by magnetic force...
Flies to s***?

Hang gliding general :: RE: Chewelah, WA-USA Area Flying Sites

22 March, 2017 - 16:55
Author: ChattaroyMan
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:55 am (GMT -8)

wonderwind_flyer wrote: ...

Plans are in the works to visit Montana and then eastern Washington at some point this summer. You have some outstanding looking flying sites out there!

...

We'll help you get into the air
Visit www.centeroflift.org for some videos on the flying around here.
There are also some pretty spiffy plans brewing in the Chewelah area on sites. We'll know more in the next month or two on dates, scope, etc. We'll have more out regarding the 7/14-16 Fly-In in a month or so as well. It'll be a 'test the waters' sort of Fly-In for what we may plan yearly beginning in 2018. This summer we would not want more than 30-40 hang/para pals being a first time event and us still working on making launches better for more than just our club's use (parking, setup area, roads, etc.). Stay tuned
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Tell Me Why? I Do Like Mondays!

22 March, 2017 - 16:51
Author: WA6BD
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:51 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: [Where does your imagination ever come up with such wild and outlandish contrivances?

the truth is stranger than fiction, especially this time.did you feel the need to graze in the LZ after you cleaned yourself off or did some of it stick =)

once again so glad you didn't really hurt yourself. n next time eat your wheaties before you fly ~

barton
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Q&A, Learning to hang glide :: RE: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?

22 March, 2017 - 16:47
Author: JackieB
Subject: Re: Nicopress corrosion – is this what it looks like?
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:47 am (GMT -8)

NMERider wrote: JackieB wrote: ....I was told that in situations like mine where the replacement schedule is long overdue, but the part is still in great shape and all other factors are considered, that it's an acceptable decision....
JB - Lives have been saved or lost by either incorrectly servicing a part that didn't really need it or by correctly servicing a part that really did need it. Statistically, the world's pilots will probably live longer by replacing their flying wires with new ones at the manufacturer recommended intervals than by relying upon the "If it ain't broke--don't fix it" mentality of bush pilots who have a shorter life expectancy than their air frames. YMMV.

Thanks for your input, NME, and I received a very helpful PM from another experienced .org member as well. I just ordered my new side wires so that I will have them available whether I decide to replace immediately or not.