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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Gliders, nailing SPOTS.

26 October, 2014 - 02:40
Author: Roadrunner
Subject: Prevailing wind at your Back, or on your front?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:40 pm (GMT -8)

Guy's, Do you feel more confident about nailing a spot when landing Down-Wind-Up-Hill, than when landing into the wind on flat ground?\

Good By: The BIG Guy

Hang gliding general :: RE: speed ribs?

26 October, 2014 - 02:19
Author: waveview
Subject: Re: speed ribs?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:19 pm (GMT -8)

Wonder Boy wrote:

I made some mini pockets on my undersurface with adhesive backed insignia cloth.
Worked great. 6" peice of carbon fiber rod is what I use

This adhesive backed sail cloth (insignia cloth) is also called "spinnaker repair tape" in some places. Try yachting supply shops for availability, it is also available in a very wide range of colors.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Why Fly

26 October, 2014 - 00:41
Author: HanzTx
Subject: why not fly
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:41 pm (GMT -8)

Why fly?

Because i Can, thanks to those who got this sport going, it's even safe and easy, when you have people to help you learn. Who would not!

Why would anyone waste any disposable time or income doing anything else ever.

If i could not fly (PET did not exist, aluminum was 1000$ an oz... etc)... If i could not fly i would still watch (even if only birds) . like porn.

Also, and this is one of the many fringe benefits, you can't fake it. So you can pick out the liars and braggarts at launch. They won't be there.

On the other paw, you can spot your brothers-in-arms by that enormous curious respect that comes from watching. (a pilot. [fly., {like porn}]).

Hang gliding general :: RE: To toss silk....Or not???

25 October, 2014 - 22:54
Author: flybop
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:54 pm (GMT -8)

The locale pilots around here have been talking more seriously about getting a scooter tow set up. This will be primarily for our own flying, but it may be used for instruction.

So, after watching many of these videos it seems that we need a very powerful scooter to drag ourselves off the ground...???

One question I have is that the students seem to be hanging very low. Is this correct and is it done to maximize control input?
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The Basement :: RE: Endorphins

25 October, 2014 - 21:21
Author: Helix3
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:21 pm (GMT -8)


Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Gliders, nailing SPOTS.

25 October, 2014 - 21:11
Author: AndRand
Subject: Re: nail a spot
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:11 pm (GMT -8)

Wonder Boy wrote: SeeMarkFly wrote: went into a full stall and HELICOPTERED right on to the spot.
I have as yet to try this trick myself.

I wouldnt try it in the middle of gliders..... but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elX3_VPg_oc
Ah-ha!
I thought "helicoptered" = "spinning", like paragliding "helicopter" acro (probably more like SAT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOdHzVuG-iQ
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Hang gliding general :: RE: High winds blow waterfall "backwards"

25 October, 2014 - 20:54
Author: mark selner
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:54 pm (GMT -8)

i pulled off ord launch when the wind was like that.it would lull down too 30 mph for two or three seconds but i just wasn't feeling it was safe.glad cory didnt let the wires go

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Gliders, nailing SPOTS.

25 October, 2014 - 20:46
Author: Wonder Boy
Subject: Re: nail a spot
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:46 pm (GMT -8)

SeeMarkFly wrote: In my training years, we used to each put a bit of money ($5) under a rock in the L.Z.
On one day my instructor (Rod Mitchell) had to test fly a glider before delivery. I felt that an advanced pilot (instructor) competing with novice pilots was UNFAIR!
I had all the pilots circled the spot with their gliders still set up so he could NOT possibly land near it. He came over the spot about 15 feet over the ground and went into a full stall and HELICOPTERED right on to the spot.
I have as yet to try this trick myself.

I wouldnt try it in the middle of gliders..... but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elX3_VPg_oc
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The camp fire :: RE: I can Relate

25 October, 2014 - 17:43
Author: Windlord
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:43 am (GMT -8)

Geez Glenn, that makes me not want to drive again.
That's not Brian in the El Camino is it?
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Hang gliding Videos :: Possible drogue use in the LZ

25 October, 2014 - 16:18
Author: op
Subject: Possible drogue use in the LZ
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:18 am (GMT -8)


Link

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Hang gliding general :: RE: High winds blow waterfall "backwards"

25 October, 2014 - 11:46
Author: psuguru
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:46 am (GMT -8)

Kinder Scout (pronounced Kinnder) is a well known HG/PG sailplane ridge in the Pennine Hills in the UK. Now you see why. It generates wave lift too.
It can get really bad up there at times; there are always people being rescued in Winter, mostly alive, sometimes not.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: To toss silk....Or not???

25 October, 2014 - 11:39
Author: psuguru
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:39 am (GMT -8)

JR wrote: Several Instructors and our Regional Director have reached out to this Instructor to help him improve his business and teaching skills. Here's the Regional Director's response:

Ok guys please be nice to this guy, and encourage others to cut him slack. Also, please feel free to repost.

I personally spoke with the instructor yesterday. He was very, very responsive and open to the feedback. So I really feel that it is our duty to help him improve his skills and his business, and to make sure any/all criticism is constructive.

He is done operating for the year, and he has several instructors reaching out to him to help him better his business because we will all benefit from it.

Please let me know if there any other concerns about this that I may address.

Very truly yours,

Felipe Amunategui

I'm all for bringing new pilots into the sport and as a former Instructor/Special Observer, I know the time, effort, and investment that goes into teaching with little in the way of financial return to show for it. Hopefully, Matt will continue to evolve his business and I'll have more friends to fly with!

JR
What?
No instructor should be allowed to continue at all unless he meets a minmum standard of proficiency in instructing. And that minimum is high.
It's clear that this fellow's understanding of launching is deficient, and his instruction to students is lacking. There shouldn't be any evolution involved, or allowed. He needs to do an instructor's course and do some instruction under supervision.
His aims may be laudable but not only is ignorance bliss, it's damn dangerous.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: speed ribs?

25 October, 2014 - 11:04
Author: ChattaroyMan
Subject: Re: speed ribs?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:04 am (GMT -8)

red wrote: The RC hobby shops sell Carbon Fiber slats (blades) and rods in many small sizes. You can insert these thin blades in the hem across the trailing edge, or even between the holes in zigzag stitching (between the sailcloth layers). Make the blade maybe half an inch (1cm) shorter than the distance between the rib pockets. A stitch or two of upholstery thread at the ends of the CF will keep the CF in place. Fabric stores have UV-proof upholstery thread in black, white, and many colors. These CF blades would be installed at right angles to any "speed ribs," running from rib to rib along the trailing edge. Use blades if the trailing edge hem is straight, or round rods if the trailing edge hem has a curve to it

I put two CF round rods in the TE hems of my U2 - flutter gone - not even a hint of flutter left. I hot knifed a small hole in the hem of the second panels from the tip, inserted the rods (which took some doing as they are SNUG) then cut the excess CF rod off with a sharp pair of wire cutters. They're snug enough that they're staying in (as in they'd be darn hard to get out). Only drawback is that I can no longer fold the wing tips in as much when rolling the sail up (they folded in at this panel) so my roll up length is longer. Luckily my bag has just enough room to contain the new length.
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Gliders, nailing SPOTS.

25 October, 2014 - 10:59
Author: AndRand
Subject: Re: nail a spot
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:59 am (GMT -8)

SeeMarkFly wrote: I have as yet to try this trick myself.
Don't forget to post clip or pictures
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Hang gliding Videos :: RE: Bonk!

25 October, 2014 - 06:33
Author: endoxon
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:33 pm (GMT -8)

"funt to watch, nothing scary"... well, i see it the oposite way:

He was quite lucky his gliders nose didn't hit his neck during these impacts.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Why Fly

25 October, 2014 - 04:34
Author: Alan
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:34 pm (GMT -8)

Nice essay but I prefer a simpler statement.

There are people who want to fly and there are people who do not. Those who want to fly understand why without any explanation. Those who do not want to fly are incapable of understanding no matter what explanation you give them. Words are useful, but just not for this.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Newbie on list

25 October, 2014 - 03:59
Author: michael170
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:59 pm (GMT -8)

http://www.getoffrelease.com

Hang gliding general :: RE: To toss silk....Or not???

25 October, 2014 - 03:05
Author: mbadley
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:05 pm (GMT -8)

Well, it probably speaks well of the dude (Matt) that he is open to feedback - but I think he's far too inexperienced with personal hang gliding achievements to be able to be an effective instructor, and working at altitudes with students where they are going to get into trouble.

I checked his WIKI profile (since his website had it prominently featured) - and he's a classic over-achiever. Maybe that's not a bad thing, but those kinds of guys don't always do so well in this kind of role. Nothing I saw on those videos would make me recommend his school to a newbie. As much as we need new blood, this wouldn't be the way to go about it if you want return visits from students.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Why Fly

25 October, 2014 - 02:24
Author: ChattaroyMan
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:24 pm (GMT -8)

Wow - Nice find! Thanks - speaks VOLUMES! Glad I'm getting ready for flying this weekend. That read definitely put one in the flying mood!
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