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Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

21 February, 2017 - 01:52
Author: JackieB
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:52 pm (GMT -8)

Dave Gills wrote: Who makes a new glider that flies like a Wills Wing Eagle?
That would be my recommendation.

Wills Wing doesn't make the Eagle anymore and the Sport 2 is too much for a fresh H2.
The Falcon just isn't enough for a NY pilot.

Something in between a Falcon & a Sport 2

I think the Pulse is supposed to be this glider, but I've never flown one. Definitely not the Freedom. I've had numerous instructors tell me that the Freedom is not a first glider.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Video: When NOT To Launch From Walt's Point

21 February, 2017 - 01:11
Author: BBJCaptain
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:11 pm (GMT -8)

Tormod wrote: Karl_A wrote: Try 760 876-4014 or 118.25 if your radio with receive that frequency. That's the Lone Pine airport AWOS-3 Automated Weather Observing System.

Won't that be 118.25 AM? Do you use AM radios in the US while flying hanggliders? Most radios here is FM, whilst air traffic uses AM.

That is a VHF radio frequency ( aircraft band ) for the
Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS)
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Optimum Body Weight

20 February, 2017 - 23:52
Author: blindrodie
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:52 pm (GMT -8)

Quote: I want to try a U2-145 if the Eagle works out... Dave I would be careful here. I fly a U2 145, hooking in at 200+ and it can be a handful in the "right" conditions, especially with higher amounts of VG. I would never compare the safety or flight characteristics of the two wings together. That being said, I find the 145, at my weight to be safe and manageable as one would expect.

IMHO,The Eagle will not be a good wing to help you make this kind of decision. Maybe some one else could chime in on the Sport... Thanks


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Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

20 February, 2017 - 23:18
Author: dencor
Subject: Re: First glider
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:18 pm (GMT -8)

wayne ripley wrote: If this is truly "first glider options" I would take the Freedom off the list, A great glider[owned one] but not a first glider. Takes some time to learn to aero tow, doesn't land as well as a Falcon and weights a bit more then the Falcon,

Such a small price to pay for such a great glider that you will probably hang onto for a LONG time.

Hang gliding general :: RE: How my friends see me.

20 February, 2017 - 22:38
Author: NMERider
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:38 pm (GMT -8)


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Hang gliding general :: How my friends see me.

20 February, 2017 - 21:28
Author: johnlangjohn
Subject: How my friends see me.
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:28 pm (GMT -8)

I have such great friends. They are so fun.

Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

20 February, 2017 - 20:09
Author: wayne ripley
Subject: First glider
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:09 pm (GMT -8)

If this is truly "first glider options" I would take the Freedom off the list, A great glider[owned one] but not a first glider. Takes some time to learn to aero tow, doesn't land as well as a Falcon and weights a bit more then the Falcon,

Hang gliding general :: RE: Instructor costs per year

20 February, 2017 - 19:11
Author: Andrew Vanis
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:11 am (GMT -8)

DAVE 858 wrote:


Dave, why did you edit your post to take down the image of this?

BTW - the teaching days calculation is not straight forward as it counts the higher of students per day or number of days up to a limit. so if you have 4 students, in one day its 4 days, if you have one student 4 days, its 4 days. - fully explained here - http://www.pasaschools.org/small-school-info/


Hang gliding general :: RE: Instructor costs per year

20 February, 2017 - 19:05
Author: Andrew Vanis
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:05 am (GMT -8)

I was told that the RRRG costs are on top of what ever the PASA costs are.

For sake of moving the conversation forward, lets say 20 student teaching days per year.

I'm hoping there are already instructors out there that have calculated this amount.

Hang gliding general :: RE: Instructor costs per year

20 February, 2017 - 19:04
Author: DAVE 858
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:04 am (GMT -8)


Hang gliding general :: RE: Instructor costs per year

20 February, 2017 - 19:01
Author: DAVE 858
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:01 am (GMT -8)

It depends upon the amount of student lesson days. Its on the PASA website.

Hang gliding general :: Instructor costs per year

20 February, 2017 - 18:39
Author: Andrew Vanis
Subject: Instructor costs per year
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:39 am (GMT -8)

What does is costs in certifications and insurance to be an instructor in the US under the USHPA/PASA/RRRG etc. system?

Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

20 February, 2017 - 16:29
Author: KTMPilot
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:29 am (GMT -8)

"Something in between a Falcon & a Sport 2"

dencor wrote: Maybe a Northwing Freedom?


and:
Northwing Pulse: http://www.northwing.com/pulse-hang-glider.aspx
Icaro Relax 2: http://www.icaro2000.com/Products/Hanggliders/RX2/RX2.htm

Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

20 February, 2017 - 14:29
Author: dencor
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:29 am (GMT -8)

Maybe a Northwing Freedom?

Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

20 February, 2017 - 14:26
Author: Dave Gills
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:26 am (GMT -8)

Who makes a new glider that flies like a Wills Wing Eagle?
That would be my recommendation.

Wills Wing doesn't make the Eagle anymore and the Sport 2 is too much for a fresh H2.
The Falcon just isn't enough for a NY pilot.

Something in between a Falcon & a Sport 2
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Optimum Body Weight

20 February, 2017 - 12:17
Author: Dave Gills
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:17 am (GMT -8)

mario wrote: Hi Dave,
When figuring out your wing loading, don't forget to add the glider's weight to your hook-in weight!
Yipes...Forgot that.
Thanks.

I've tried wearing a 10 lb SCUBA belt and I do fly with the hang strap in the forward hole on the S2-155
Still haven't tried the 145 Eagle yet...Hopefully soon.
The 164 Eagle was too big & I think the S2-155 is still too big.

I want to try a U2-145 if the Eagle works out or a S2-135.
My launching & landing has never been a problem with any wing so far.

So far as advice to the OP goes...
My recommendation is that the 175 is too big.
Go for the S2-155
Your hook in weight will probably be around 215
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Hang gliding general :: RE: First Glider Opinions

19 February, 2017 - 20:34
Author: dbotos
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 pm (GMT -8)

I hadn't included aspect ratio in my original Alpha vs Falcon comparison. Looks like that is a key difference. I also made columns for the other Wills Wing models (in the size that fit my body weight) for reference:

Hang gliding general :: Anyone going to Alaska?

19 February, 2017 - 19:17
Author: miraclepieco
Subject: Anyone going to Alaska?
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:17 am (GMT -8)

I need a couple of gliders transported from West Coast US to Wasilla or Juneau this spring. Please PM me. Thanks!

Hang gliding Videos :: RE: T2C VLOG 2017.02.16 w/ $5 Raked Tips

19 February, 2017 - 19:06
Author: NMERider
Subject: Re: T2C VLOG 2017.02.16 w/ $5 Raked Tips
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:06 am (GMT -8)

TjW wrote: .....Very nice, Jonathan. The only thing I see that might possibly at some point in the future be an issue is the velcro.
Polypropylene is a very low energy surface, and it's hard to find an adhesive that will stay stuck. It might be worth a look at the model airplane forums. The R/C combat glider guys have been using polyprop in the form of Coroplast and as foam for years. Maybe they've got a solution.

I wouldn't expect it to be an in-flight issue, but tearing down on a hot day, you might have a couple of choice words. Thanks Tim,
I'm using: VELCRO Brand - Industrial Strength Low Profile - 10' x 1" Tape - White https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VR8B3K
The Velcro website indicates it's good for outdoor use. I'll be happy if I can get 5 flights from this first set of tips before I damage them beyond repair. There are other materials I want try and I want to make a set that weigh even less and also roll up for safe storage with the battens. Now that I know much better this glider handles at low speeds I feel inspired.
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Hang gliding general :: RE: Optimum Body Weight

19 February, 2017 - 17:43
Author: DAVE 858
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:43 am (GMT -8)

I am failing to grasp the logic here. Why would you even considering buying a glider that is not the right size? Save the money & buy the right sized glider new.